The Step Back – Episode 6 – Transcript

Graham Wing
Welcome to the sixth episode of The Step Back podcast. I’m Graham

Andrew Wing
and I’m Andrew

Graham Wing
and we’re just a couple of guys who like to talk about basketball. This week we are coming to you from Orlando, Florida

Andrew Wing
Coming to you live.

Graham Wing
We are here on our annual family vacation. We go down usually every March or April. And so we were outside, enjoying the 31 degree weather outside and just having a great time. We aren’t sure if we’re going to make it to an Orlando Magic game or not. We hope so if we do, we’ll definitely share some thoughts about that. We will do an episode of the podcast for next Sunday on March 17, and probably posted on the 18th but the week after that on the 24th we will not be recording as we’ll be traveling back home again. But we’re excited to be here. And once again, excited to talk a little bit about basketball. This probably will be a slightly shorter episode, the normal as we’ve been preoccupied with some other things this week. For games this week, we just wanted to kind of highlight a couple of general things. The Chicago Bulls, Andrew are playing a lot better nowadays. Any particular thoughts on that?

Andrew Wing
I think that they have a lot of really good young talent, especially in Zach Lavine. And I guess just as the season’s gone on, their chemistry started to build and they’re just they’re obviously not great, but there’s definitely starting to play better. Which is nice.

Graham Wing
I think that earlier in the season they lost by 53 points or something like that against Boston. And that must suck. That must be terrible having to go through a game like that. And not that it’s been the problem for the last three months but I’m sure that plays on you and when other teams are beating you so badly and everybody knows that Oh, it’s an easy win for you. That’s just got to be a terrible thing to get out of. But that win when they beat Boston a couple of weeks ago, I’m sure it was a great confidence builder and then they just played really, really well. Yeah, Zach Lavine, you know, I think for a while people have this idea that he was just a dunker, but he won, well he should have won, no he did win the dunk contest sorry Gordon should have won, but he won the dunk contest. He was just so young and spry, athletic and it was so impressive and he’s a good player. He’s shooting threes, he’s shooting long twos. He’s handling the ball. He’s impressive. I think they got a long way to go. They’re not going to be champions anytime soon but it does seem like they’ve turned at least a bit of a corner. Now the problem is is this a good thing or a bad thing for them? If you’re good that means you move up in the standings which means you move down in the Zion Williamson sweepstakes.

Andrew Wing
Oh they’re fine. They’re not, they’re not they’re still like what 13th in the conference they’re not like moving up by a lot

Graham Wing
No, they’re not going to make the playoffs but you know what, it was, they were pretty bad. They were just behind the Knicks and the Cavs. But if they go up past Phoenix you know if they’re fourth, fifth, sixth worst team they just have no chance. You get into that debate about whether or not tanking is a good thing. Maybe we’ll maybe we’ll talk about that in a minute.

The Celtics are winning again.

Andrew Wing
Boo

Graham Wing
Which is good for the Celtics maybe not great for the Raptors so right now

Right now the Celtics I believe are fifth in the east.

Andrew Wing
I saw this they’re just so far behind the Raptors I’m not worried about them

Yeah

Graham Wing
So if rankings go according to the, if they stay the way they are. First round would be Philly vs. Boston, fourth and fifth, right because Indiana for some strange reason is ahead of both of them. And then the winner of that would play the Bucks.

Andrew Wing
Yes.

Graham Wing
So Boston, or Toronto would be playing whoever is in seventh which doesn’t matter because Toronto would win and then they would play Indiana in the semi finals, the conference semifinals, the second round and so they are, they kind of have, if it stays the way it is, Toronto kind of has a clear path right to the conference finals.

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
So this is this is a good thing we don’t want we don’t want Boston or Philly to be winning too many games because they can fight it out in the first round. And then they can fight it out with the Bucks in the second round. And then hopefully the Bucks would come into the conference finals kind of beat up and Toronto would be able to handle them

Andrew Wing
Indiana’s playing Philadelphia actually right now as we’re doing this, so I’m really hoping that Indiana wins that. It gives them extra game ahead of Philadelphia

Graham Wing
Right

Andrew Wing
to the stay in third

Graham Wing
But back with Boston. They’re playing well. Apparently there was some flight that they took where they were playing some games together as a cards or whatever it was and they just chilled, they talk to each other and they’re a little more relaxed now. I still say like I said in previous episodes, that Kyrie is poison in the in the locker room. There’s been all sorts of talk recently about LeBron and what he’s like and I’m sure Kyrie hated it. So I find it particularly interesting that he is kind of doing the same thing. Just beinh this guy off it was off on his own being a LeBron and and not in a good way, not in a scoring way, a championship way. I’m just really surprised about it. Any any additional thoughts about Kyrie than what we’ve said in the past?

Andrew Wing
No.

Graham Wing
So you agree that he is not good for them? Or do you think he’s, it’s so tough because he’s so skilled? Yeah, like you love watching Uncle Drew,

Andrew Wing
I think he’s good, he’s fine. He can stay, I don’t really care.

Graham Wing
It’s good for Toronto, if he stays because then they won’t be that great. Anyways, and then the last set of games really to talk about were the Raptors. So this week, they played the Pelicans and the Trailblazers, and they played well in both of those games won both of them, but today is Sunday it’s the third game now this week and that would mean that Kawhi Leonard is

Andrew Wing
out with load management

Graham Wing
Out with load management. So last week your shot clock violation was about load management

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
So he played two games and then gets a game off he’s playing two thirds of the games

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
What do you think about that Andrew.

Andrew Wing
It sucks

Graham Wing
I don’t understand it’s back to back with their playing who tomorrow?

Andrew Wing
Cleveland

Graham Wing
Cleveland on Monday. So Miami on Sunday, Cleveland on Monday. So he’s out against Miami and will probably play tomorrow in Cleveland?

Andrew Wing
Yeah.

Graham Wing
Why?

Andrew Wing
I don’t know

Graham Wing
You haven’t read it. Like you know

Andrew Wing
Nothing. They don’t say. Whenever it says load management, it doesn’t go on about it says he’s getting arrested. They never say why he’s resting

Graham Wing
Like Miami’s played well, against all sorts of teams. I don’t know if they’re in the playoffs or not. They’re going to be

Andrew Wing
They are, they are…

Graham Wing
They’re on the bubble, right? But this is a game that Kawhi would need him for.

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
And they will not need him against Cleveland.

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
So why is he playing against Cleveland and not against Miami?

Andrew Wing
I don’t know.

Graham Wing
As I said last week, it is a, it is load management. It is a load of something, but I’m not sure exactly what it is. It is, it is not impressive. Alrighty. So we have just a few news stories that we wanted to highlight this week. The first one, Andrew and I had a pretty lively debate earlier in the week on, and it was a story that we saw on ESPN, and I think some other outlets covered it as well, but that Andre Iguodala says that Steph Curry is underrated and that he is the number two point guard ever. Number one being Magic Johnson. I think that is ridiculous. Steph Curry plays the point, but he’s the scorer so he’s really a shooting guard it’s like saying LeBron is a point guard he gets a triple double so he’s and he’s getting assists there he’s leading the game but he’s not a point guard. So calling Steph Curry the second best point guard ever is just crazy. A point guard carries the ball up the court, looks around, dishes the ball off, finds the open man

Andrew Wing
That’s what he does

Graham Wing
No he doesn’t

Andrew Wing
He does that

Graham Wing
How many assist does he average a game.

Andrew Wing
Like seven

Graham Wing
Okay and how many does Draymond Green average

Like seven

He averages more. He’s the team leader. Whatever it is whatever it might be 7.2 verses 7.1. I don’t know what it is but regardless, Draymond Green controls that better than Steph Curry does. So Draymond Green should be a better quote unquote point guard then Steph Curry. He is not a point guard

Andrew Wing
Draymond Green is not

Graham Wing
No, but neither is Steph Curry from the traditional definition of it.

Andrew Wing
What, what is the definition of?

Graham Wing
What do you say that the definition of a point guard is?

Andrew Wing
I don’t know. They they can score they can they can get their team assists. They can get assist. That doesn’t have to be what they only do. They can like they they control the play. And Curry does that a lot. Like when like and like high pressure game situations. They like they they’re the ones controlling the floor. And Curry does that a lot. And he gets assists that he needs to get as well. And he gets his shot.

Graham Wing
But Draymond Green, everybody talks about how he’s the guy, he’s at the top of the key, he sees the floor and he and Curry is the one scrambling, like everybody says nobody moves without the ball better than Steph Curry.

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
That’s great. I agree with that. But when he’s moving without the ball, and he’s the best of the league moving without the ball that how is he the best point guard?He doesn’t have the ball

Andrew Wing
When he does have the ball, He’s good.

Graham Wing
He is good.

Andrew Wing
He doesn’t have to just get assists. I think probably what Andre Iguadola is looking at is this position. They’re just like, like for shooting guard. Like if you’re looking at shooting shooting guard supposed to shoot we see a shooting guard who could shoot and could pass and give you a bunch of other things. You still think they’re great, pretty good shooting guard and you’re looking at a point guard if you don’t have to look at point guard is getting assist that they can shoot. They can pass they can like play defense. There are pretty good point guard then probably one of the best of all time because they can do everything.

Graham Wing
That’s fine. We can disagree on it. But I think that Porzingas decides it. All he wants to do is shoot threes and he shoots threes as well as Curry does, he will never be considered the best center ever.

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
Why not? Because he’s doing something different. It’s been defined. He’s changing the definition of what a center is. You don’t centres don’t shoot threes. But that’s right. So if he if he does that, he’s made a whole new thing. He’s led the way but nobody would consider that because that’s not what I center does.

Andrew Wing
Yeah.

Graham Wing
Right. So a point guard is not a shooting guard. A point guard is a point guard. Now I think Steph Curry has the potential to be an amazing passer. But he’s not because or he doesn’t pass because he is the shooter. So I just I think that he is just

Andrew Wing
No, you are so wrong.

Graham Wing
Or you haven’t been able to explain it though.

Andrew Wing
Yes, I have.

Graham Wing
No you haven’t

What about the second best point guard ever?

Andrew Wing
I just did, I just did

Graham Wing
Yeah.

So who is number one?

Andrew Wing
Magic

Graham Wing
So where’s john Stockton

Just because John Stockton has the most assists of all time doesn’t mean he was like, he’s the greatest point guard of all time. That’s all he did was just get assists. He didn’t do anything else.

He scored in double digits in his career.

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
Yeah.

Andrew Wing
So

Graham Wing
What about Jason Kidd?

Andrew Wing
Same as… Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, and john Stockton are like the exact same player. Yeah, the exact same. There’s nothing unique about any of them. Nothing. There’s going to be a lot of hate comments on this.

Graham Wing
But they were amazing

Andrew Wing
They were but they were all the same person.

Graham Wing
So then how is Kobe, Kobe different from Jordan?

Andrew Wing
What do you mean?

Graham Wing
Well, they’re the exactly the same, scoring the same way. Like the stats, all that kind of stuff,

Andrew Wing
Kobe looked up to the man. These guys these guys just copied each other. I don’t know what I just said there.

Graham Wing
Well, let’s agree to disagree. I think Curry is a fantastic shooter, one of the best shooters the game has ever seen. I think he has the potential to be an incredible point guard. But he is the shooting guard. Regardless of what position he plays, whether he plays one or two, it doesn’t matter. He is a shooter. And a point guard is not the shooter. And that’s that’s the way it is. And so he if he was getting 10 assists a game and shooting the threes like he is, I might agree with that. But he’s not. And he’s only been this good for the last four years

Andrew Wing
It’s been like six years.

Graham Wing
It hasn’t been that long.

Andrew Wing
Yes it has

Graham Wing
How long have you played in the league for?

Andrew Wing
Like, 10, 11 seasons?

Graham Wing
Yeah, the first few years, nobody even knew who he was. He’s not, he can’t say after four years or five years, six years of shooting three

Andrew Wing
People knew who he was. He was still averaging 24 points a game he just

Graham Wing
Nobody cared about Steph Curry before the Warriors

Andrew Wing
People knew who he was. He just never, he didn’t have championship. He didn’t have a ring. And he didn’t have an MVP. He didn’t have any awards and then he hadn’t made an all star team.

Graham Wing
Nobody knew who Steph Curry was his first four years of his career. He played in Golden State, which wasn’t winning. Mark Jackson was the coach. It was a terrible team. Nobody cared about Steph Curry. You cannot

Andrew Wing
No one cared but they still knew who he was

Graham Wing
Well, everybody. basketball fans know who everybody is. Anyways. I disagree. You agree. So where it is John Stockton on the list of, if it’s all about shooting now for a point guard. John Stockton just must

Andrew Wing
It’s not all about shooting it just as you do more than just get a like 20 assists a game

Graham Wing
But that’s their job

Andrew Wing
No it’s not. Where does this say that is their job?

Graham Wing
That’s what a point guard does not a shooting guard, a point guard

Andrew Wing
It doesn’t say that anywhere that point guards have to get assists to be a good point guard. It doesn’t say that anywhere. If you can find it for me I’ll take it back but if you can’t

Graham Wing
What about Russell Westbrook? Triple double for three seasons he’s going to have it again this year so it’d be three seasons. He essentially then should be, if we’re talking about that’s what he should be the best player in the league. Because he can score he can rebound and you can get the assist so he’s the complete package

Andrew Wing
He really is

Graham Wing
So why are so is he see the best player in the league?

Andrew Wing
No he’s not because you can’t shoot

Graham Wing
He averages, what is he at, 20 points a game?

Andrew Wing
something like that

Graham Wing
Yeah so what’s wrong with that

Andrew Wing
He still can’t shoot he can’t shoot

Graham Wing
So if you could shoot better he’d be the best point guard

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
Even though he leads the league in assists

If Westbrook can do this

He’s the only person in the league with double digit assist right it’s 11 point something

Andrew Wing
yeah

Graham Wing
yeah

Andrew Wing
if he keeps us up for the next five seasons, six seasons he could probably be on top three point guard of all time. With averaging triple doubles and getting his 11 assists a game he I would put them in for top three.

Graham Wing
So Magic, Curry and Russell Westbrook

Andrew Wing
Probably Westbrook before Curry

Graham Wing
Pushing the three Hall of Famers down out of the top three for sure.

Andrew Wing
Yeah

Graham Wing
The best point guards ever are no longer the best point guards ever because

Andrew Wing
They aren’t the best point guards

Graham Wing
Anyway, let’s move on the Lakers. What do you think?

Andrew Wing
They have problems.

Graham Wing
They have a problem.

Andrew Wing
They have health problems. They have chemistry problems. They have coaching problems. They have LeBron problems, they have management problems.

Graham Wing
I would say they have a problem.

Andrew Wing
I just gave you five.

Graham Wing
I know I say they have one problem. LeBron. It has been so refreshing if I can say that to listen to all the different talking heads on the TVs, the clips on YouTube and that, you know, basically bashing LeBron. Yeah, he really hasn’t changed and they’re finally seeing him because he’s not winning championships. They’re not, they’re seeing him for what he is. And like Kyrie, he’s poison on the team. That clip of, who was it that push him?

Andrew Wing
It was Kuzma, he push him to play defense? Because he was

Graham Wing
That was incredible. I can’t. I’m surprised that LeBron didn’t turn around and punch in the face. Like the the he didn’t just like push him. He just shoved him almost as hard as he could. That was awesome. Yeah, they I your list of things were great. So they’ve got a health problem. So Balls out, LeBron.

And LeBron may not be completely healthy with his groin injury. You said that they have chemistry problem. And that’s probably a LeBron problem. I can’t remember who it was. But I read an article this week that talked about him in the locker room and him in the, on the plane and stuff like just. He is, he’s not a team player. You know, in that quote unquote, phrase team player, he’s not that. And so it is very hard to develop chemistry with a guy who is like that

Andrew Wing
And Ingram’s out

Graham Wing
They have a LeBron problem. You mentioned that we’ve already mentioned that they have a management problem. I’ve said from the very start that Magic Johnson may be the best point guard ever but he is not going to be the best executive ever. He is not that. He likes to talk basketball but he is not a basketball executive. I don’t think they’re gonna win with him in charge. That’s my personal opinion. I thought that from the very beginning. So I agree with you there. They’ve got a bunch of problems. So two comments about the Lakers. One was an article in Bleacher Report on quoting Snoop Dogg you may have seen the online rant that he did where he said that the Lakers are, they suck. And that he was willing to sell his box seats for something like $5. I’ll take them. And he says they should fire Luke Walton so let’s start with Luke Walton should they fire Luke Walton?

Andrew Wing
Yeah. If it’s not working out for them and that’s not if he’s, if he’s in his coaching style is not a fit for the way Magic Johnson is trying to build this team then he’s just he’s just not gonna work maybe it’s not his name is not necessarily his fault because

Graham Wing
all right

Andrew Wing
He is he he’s probably get out of there and just just forget what’s happened.

Graham Wing
I think he should leave absolutely. I don’t think it’s, it’s unfortunate for him because he’s a good coach.

So you look at

Andrew Wing
I agree, he’s not just not doing well there

Graham Wing
When he was with when he was an assistant with the Warriors and Kerr was out for the first three months of the season, whatever it was that one year with his back problems. and that was the Warriors I think that was their best year right?

Andrew Wing
73 and 9

Graham Wing
So he went something like 30 and 1 or 30 and 2 in his 30 something games that he had with the Warriors. So either Walton is a good coach or coaches are irrelevant. I mean, it’s not fair to make it so black and white but given the circumstances I think that’s what it is. So if he’s a good coach, then he’s fine for the Lakers and the problem and the problem is not him. If the coaches don’t matter that maybe Steve Kerr’s a crappy coach because the Warriors are just so good anybody can coach them I don’t know but Walton I was hoping

Andrew Wing
I really think anyone can coach the Warriors. I could go and coach the Warriors and they’d be winning games

Graham Wing
They wouldn’t listen to you, they’d just play.

Andrew Wing
We’d still be winning games

Graham Wing
I had been saying for a couple of years at the Raptors should fire Dwayne Casey and I was hoping they would and I wanted Luke Walton. I think Luke Luke Walton as a as a coaching talent I think he’s excellent and I think in the right circumstances he will be phenomenal. I agree with you though that if he’s if he’s not the fit for the Lakers then part company. It doesn’t mean he’s a bad coach it’s just if you need some I don’t know what you’d call it some “Yes man” some, you know, some guy who’s just going to listen to everything LeBron says so that the team you know it’s so LeBron’s happy and the team is going to win that way I guess that’s what you gotta do for LeBron, but… It just it seems unfortunate for Luke Walton. I feel sorry for him. The other thing was an article, another article on Bleacher Report, and the title was “Will Lakers failed season cost them in 2019 free agent market? Yes or no

Andrew Wing
yes

Graham Wing
yes agreed

Andrew Wing
Of course. If they don’t make the playoffs why would a big name want to go to LA. Well I’m sure they still will but seems a little last little less likely seeing that LeBron just, I don’t know you don’t have to make the playoffs why would you want to go that even if it is LA

Graham Wing
Durant, is Durant going to LA?

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
Is Kawhi going to, sorry, to the Lakers? Is Durant going to the Lakers?

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
Is Kawhi going to the Lakers?

Andrew Wing
no

Graham Wing
Is Anthony Davis going to end up on the Lakers?

Andrew Wing
He, that’s a possibility

Graham Wing
but still got to be through trade because he has no choice he’s not even a free agent right. Is Kyrie going to the Lakers

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
So the only possible big star is Davis

Andrew Wing
Yeah, but not even and that’s not based on the team. It’s not even his decision so

Graham Wing
right so who’s the second tier, I didn’t know who the second tier three agents are but if you get LeBron

Andrew Wing
Kemba Walker is a free agent, Chris Middleton’s a free agent

Graham Wing
I’ve already commented in the past that Chris Middleton’s a nice guy and decent enough but he’s not a star

Andrew Wing
No, but Kemba Walker

Graham Wing
But Jordan has said he wants him. So where would you rather play? In Charlotte with Jordan or for Jordan or the Lakers and be stuck with LeBron

Andrew Wing
I’d probably rather play in Charlotte with Jordan

Graham Wing
Yeah and hopefully they you know, Charlotte needs to do more to get better supporting cast around him but I’d rather be the star in Charlotte under Jordan then be nothing in the Lake, with the Lakers. So yeah, I agree I think the Lakers are are stuck and it’ll be interesting to see if they can get anybody at all. All right, now the last thing we wanted to talk about was an article from NBC Sports their their basketball section that talked about the “NBA jersey ad patch program has generated $150 million and it’s here to stay”. Well, first of all, I didn’t

Andrew Wing
What is that?

Graham Wing
That’s the ad, the patch on their jersey. Sorry. So first of all, I didn’t know it was just a temporary thing. it’s here to stay. I assumed it was from the time that they announced it but 150 million dollars. That’s a lot of money. So $30 million, 30 teams. So that’s an average of 5 million a team that they’re getting for that little logo. Yeah, so the Magic have a Disney logo. And the Charlotte Hornets have the jump man, the Jordan Brand logo. The Raptors have SunLife. The Rockets have Rockit or whatever that company is. The Bucs have the motorcyle

Andrew Wing
Harley Davidson.

Graham Wing
So it seems like it’s been a good program. I think I read that there were 28 teams that had sponsorships. So that’s, it’s pretty good. Now are you okay with the size of them?

Andrew Wing
Yeah, they’re fine.

Graham Wing
Has there been anybody who’s had an ad that you think is, for lack of a better term, inappropriate, too big, too distracting?

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
I think they’re all, are they all black and white?

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
Are there color ads on them. Can you think of who?

Andrew Wing
The Bucks, They have an orange Harley Davidson

Graham Wing
but I think they’re all like two tone that. I think it’s either I think it’s like two colors or something. There’s no full color spectrum ads. I especially they could do that and get more money for it. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see some sort of full color logo, multicolored. So I wouldn’t be surprised if that changes. I wouldn’t be surprised if they could be getting a little bit bigger. They fit nicely there. They have to be careful that they don’t do it, restrict any player arm movements, with it being too big and bulky by their shoulder. But yeah, what about adding additional ads or

Andrew Wing
No,

Graham Wing
no

Andrew Wing
No, it’ll be too ugly.

Like they could put the Nike swoosh on the back like they used to do with Adidas and then put a logo on the other side now so just keep it the way it is even the way it is I wouldn’t I think they’re going to change it. It might be a few more years but they want to make money, it’s all about the money so it’s going to be this hugely successful program, every team will get a sponsor. The ones that don’t will have them and they’re going to want to make more money and they’re going to say well we want to have two patches and they’re going to move Nike to the back or something like that. That’s my prediction

I hope that doesn’t happen

Graham Wing
When you watch international soccer

Andrew Wing
That’s true. They have ads everywhere

Graham Wing
Do you really care? I don’t think anybody cares

Andrew Wing
No

Graham Wing
I don’t even know why it’s worth anything. Because I see Sun Life on the Raptors jersey, it doesn’t make me go who I want to, I want to have a SunLife product in my life. I see the Bucks with a Harley Davidson logo doesn’t make me go, “I want a motorcycle” and walk out like a zombie and buy a motorcycle. I really don’t know what value it has. But they’re getting money for it. So I think they’re just going to want to get more money for it. All right. Well, Andrew this week. Do you have a shot clock violation or a buzzer beater?

Andrew Wing
Sadly, I do not.

Graham Wing
Everything’s just wonderful. There’s nothing to rant about. Nothing to praise about.

Andrew Wing
I didn’t, I have nothing to talk about. I didn’t see anything this week.

Graham Wing
Yeah, it’s been a tough week as we’ve been preparing for our trip down to Florida. I do have a buzzer beater that I wanted to talk about. It’s really simple but I’ll start that right now.

My buzzer beater is about the prizes or the rewards that are that happen in game for player or team success. So for the Raptors if they get a certain number of threes you get a pizza slice for Philly they get the Frosty if the opposing team misses two free throws. I love that. It’s just so much fun. And when the team is going crazy. Not the team. The players going crazy because somebody missed a free throw. And now they’re going crazy. Because they want the second one to miss. It’s awesome.

It’s simple, but I love it.

Andrew Wing
I agree

Graham Wing
There’s nothing more important to basketball. I think then then the crowd. I don’t know what the smallest crowd in the NBA is going to be this year. But I would assume almost every arena is close to capacity every night.

Andrew Wing
Yeah.

Graham Wing
But if you if you’re a team playing in front of a couple of thousand people instead of 20,000 people, I think that would be just be terrible. So when you’re playing and the as an in Philly, for example, that frosty promotion is super popular.

Andrew Wing
Oh, yeah.

Graham Wing
So the team the opposing team misses the first free throw. The crowd is screaming so loud because they want their free frosty. And I just think that’s awesome. And it’s beneficial to the players because of the way that it the crowds all hyped up now. So if if they miss the teams, the crowd is excited. And now they’re still cheering because they just want something in then that pumps up the players. And I just think it’s awesome. I know I went past the 24 seconds

but it’s it’s a cool, cool thing that they get to do. Well, I think that’s it for this episode. We as I said, we will have a recording next week. While we’re down here in Orlando. We’re watching a bit of college basketball. That is one of the nice things about being down here in the United States is ESPN. We do not get ESPN at home. We’re only checking stuff online or watching the Canadian sports networks that they have. So ESPN is nice. I sure wish we could get that at home. So we’ve been watching last night we watched some of the Duke North Carolina game. We watched Virginia play so we’re kind of gearing up for March Madness. We’re watching some other games that are on but of course we’re also out playing as well. So we’ll have another episode next week. Probably this length or or shorter and then we’ll miss the week after. So for Andrew, I’m Graham and that’s The Step Back podcast. We’ll talk to you next week.

Andrew Wing
No, that’s fine

Peace.

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